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# Putukusi says :
Muy interesante, pero mucha repeticion para tan poquita informacion.
La vida es muy corta y hay tantas cosas para aprender.
Very interesting, but repeticios, life is to short there are so many things to learn.
We need to look at what is one of the prime identifiers of pre historic cultures. Worldwide in regards to cultures that had no knowledge of writing we identify them by their artistic styles. Architectural styles also help to identify a "culture." Much of the artistic style was religious in nature, but as we see in the Moche, some scenes of daily life are depicted as well.# johnsmith says :
It is safe to say that a people that we now identify as the Chavin did not just simply disappear. There really never was a Chavin culture but a Chavin cultural horizon. The horizon can be described as a widespread style that lasts a relitively short amount of time. It can also encompass people of various cultures or quite likely people of one culture but having a different religious belief. For example, a person that is American in culture but having methodist religious beliefs.
The Chavin Horizon has been identified as religious with its central pilgramage site, Chavin de Huantar. Animal motifs such as the cayman, condor, serpent, and jaguars are common as well as some supernatural snarling being that is probably the Chavin representation of the Andean Staff god. Iconography shows this being holding the San Pedro cactus as though it were the "staff of power." The staff is still an important symbol of power in the Andes (see the Varayocs in the Cusco area).
Something that we don't always take into account is that pre historic people probably weren't that much different than we are. I'm sure that they had their fads and such. We tend to way over analyze things to try and prove our intellegence to others, I believe that this often occurs in the scientific community. I can say that people just don't dissappear in the absence of some cataclysmic event (I would consider deforrestation gradual and thus not cataclysmic). The "Chavin" didn't just disappear from the face of the earth. There could be a complex reason but it could also be more simple. I'll put it in more recent terms. If you lived during the 70's chances are you wore bell bottoms, chances are all of your friends wore bell bottoms. Do you see a whole lot of bell bottoms today? Some things just simply go out of style due to the next best thing. Sometimes something bigger, better, and more believable comes along.
Sometimes, as suggested in the article, people identify a source of power and feel abused by that source. A lot of that goes on today. People just get sick of the regime and want change. So they switched to something else. The expansion of the Chavin Horizon was non-malitaristic so it didn't require a great rebellion to break free of. It was more than likely run by sort of a religious sect and governed by its hierarchy. It has been suggested that the use of hallucinogens could have aided this priesthood in the mind control of pilgrams to Chavin. The same priesthood could have abused its followers by exacting large tributes and the people just got tired of it.
So, I offer two possible explanations for the decline of the Chavin Horizon. Firstly, a simple change of style and taste in "fashion" towards the next big thing. Second, the people could have identified a farce and in discontent, decided to quit believing.
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