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It's true! I have lived here almost 7 years and still have a hard time with it. Too many times each person could move over just a bit and no one would have to run into the other person. What bothers me the most is when several people are coming towards you on a sidewalk and not one single person will move to let you by. I have stepped off the sidewalk many times thinking just how inconsiderate they are. I volunteer in class where Peruvians go to practice English and have mentioned this. Even the Peruvians there agreed with me! Maybe they were just being nice to me but I had the feeling they really did not like it either.# JC says :
I moved to Cusco, from Southern California, in 2003. I was shocked at their rudeness (all that bumping, pushing, and not one darn "excuse me". In 2005, I moved to Arequipa and have noticed the same thing here for over 5 years. I recently became a Peruvian citizen and still marvel at the "rudeness" in personal space and aggressive driving among my new countrymen. It's good to know this has irritated other "gringos". Still, after 8 years, nothing irritates me as much as two or more people walking on the sidewalk, side-by-side, expecting an individual approaching them to get out of their way. It's as if they see themselves as one entity (like the Borg in Star Trek). How very different from the "aircraft formation" approach we use... you know, side-by-side (wingtip to wingtip) until we encounter someone and then someone takes the lead, someone falls back, and once we pass the individual(s) we return to formation.# Roy says :Culture-clash... been happening since civilizations first encountered each other. I guess we all need to remember, "when in Rome, do as the Romans do".
The trick is to say 'permiso' and if they don't move just walk through them. from the looks of surprise and comments I get I don't think it's cultural.# Peru-N-English Blog says :The one that gets me is when you hold a door open for someone and there's never a word of thanks (usually elderly ladies). Again, maybe letting the door go in their face would be an appropriate response.
Rude is always rude no matter the culture. I once read that you can determine the intellect, compassion and social development of a society by observing how its citizens drive. Cultural differences in comportment I can accept and I am willing to learn. But for me, consideration always trumps tolerance. I was stunned by a trip to Arica, Chile. Simply by crossing the border, the lack to honking car horns, the presences of people who stop their car for you to cross the street, the pedestrian courtesy on the sidewalks and the politeness and service in the restaurants and stores, all made me think I must have entered the Twilight Zone. “You're traveling through another dimension -- a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are that of imagination. That's a signpost up ahead: your next stop: the Twilight Zone!” Arica, Chile. Perú has a lot to learn, but I’m still here. (-:# Henry the Navigator says :
Peru-N-English,# Jimmy says :
You should move to Chile asap. The farther south you go, the better. I'm pretty sure nobody is going to miss your pathetics comments.
Henry
# Jaime E Rivera says :You must be new to Peru. Gotta assert yourself here unfortunately. They're just plain rude, ill mannered, unclutured and think nothing of it. There is always someone trying to cut in line or push past me. I can get real agressive and put them in their place, pushing back if need be. I'm 6'3" and tower over Peruvians. They back down quickly.
Love your articles. You should write a book about us Peruvians, you know, how we really behave, live, interact, stuff like that. After living outside Peru for 31 years now, it sure comes handy to know what living in Peru is all about. I'll take a look at your blog now. Bye bye.# Fernando says :
Jimmy, what are you? Some kind of ill-minded redneck that escaped prison from the U.S? You sound more like a criminal than a person. I feel sorry for you.# Rinda Payne says :
I have lived in Cusco for two years and also spent a lot of time in Lima. I have never experienced anything like you describe in your article. As well, New Yorkers, unless they are in a hurry to work, etc., do look up from where they are going and as a rule do look around them, from side to side and up.# Marco Antonio says :
Yes, we have our own personal space rules.# bill says :
These rules ALSO let us give hugs, kisses, smiles and be friendly.
For sure is this something you are not used to experiment and I warn you that feel some warm human touch could be irritating to you.
For God's grace...we are completely different, and we have no problem with that ! We say "take care" and "how are you" because really have interest on you not as a common phrase. Yes, we are different, really.
Stay away from peruvian people, they will give you some comforting hug when you're sad or a sweet kiss when you're happy. Avoid to feel invaded, avoid to make ties with strangers. Build a wall. Don´t learn spanish.
But of course we have our own rednecks like Jimmy. It`s very sad.
For sure he would feel at home here acting like a cromagnon with them.
I have stepped off the sidewalk many times thinking just how inconsiderate they are.
i used to do that. but being that i'm bigger than most peruvians, if i'm at the edge of the curb, or walking flush against a wall, and the inconsiderate jerks walk toward me without even trying to move, i don't budge an inch and slam my shoulder into theres. when i get an exasperated "AYE" or what have you, they get a stare-down from me. when in rome. if the romans here want to be rude, i'm from NY, i can be just as rude back, if that's how they like it.
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